Tucker: Biden punishing Border Patrol for imposing the legislation

It is a rush transcript of “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on September 22, 2021. This copy might not be in its remaining kind and could also be up to date.

TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS CHANNEL HOST:  Good night and welcome to TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT. 

The flood of Haitian migrants into the US continues at this hour, unabated. FOX’s Invoice Melugin is on the border for us now and joins us with an replace. Hey, Invoice. 

BILL MELUGIN, FOX NEWS CHANNEL NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT:  Hey Tucker. Good night to you. So in the present day, FOX Information was in a position to affirm that in reality, the Federal authorities is releasing hundreds of Haitian migrants into the US from this camp proper right here. 

My Border Patrol sources on the bottom working right here in Del Rio inform me what they’re doing is mainly releasing any household models and any ladies who’re at present claiming to be pregnant, and you may see the influence that it’s having on the camp right here. Take a dwell have a look at the scene right here. 

We’re informed nearly 5,000 individuals are left over on this camp proper now. 

That’s considerably decreased from what it was on Saturday, about 15,000. 

You’ll be able to nonetheless see lots of people right here milling about, they’ve constructed their makeshift buildings right here as they wait within the solar, wait within the warmth, ready to be processed to search out out if they have an opportunity of being launched into the US. 

You’ll be able to take a dwell have a look at our drone forward. We have been exhibiting you this for the previous a number of days now, if we have got it, simply — the camp continues to be pretty giant, however you may see elements of it are lastly beginning to be cleared out as a result of the Feds need to get the optics of this gone, in order that they’re attempting to clear it as quick as attainable and we need to present you what a few of these mass releases appear like. 

Check out this video. We had been in Del Rio earlier in the present day. We went to an NGO, a non-government group the place we noticed busloads of Haitian migrants simply being launched after they had been processed by Border Patrol. 

That NGO gave them some meals, some provides, after which they had been on their manner. They may go on a bus to anyplace else within the nation, or check out these photographs. Native journalists right here reporting that there are Haitians on airplanes flying out of Del Rio Airport, a few of them taking selfies. 

One journalist telling me, she talked to a few of the households on the airplane, some are going to Maryland, some are going to Florida, some are going to New York. One girl simply gave delivery to a child right here below the bridge six days in the past. 

So that you’re seeing it. You heard D.H.S. Secretary Mayorkas say the opposite day that these migrants are going to be expelled. Do not come right here. Your journey isn’t going to succeed. You may be despatched again. That is not fully true, as a result of these migrants are being launched by the hundreds and simply to wrap it up, what my sources on the bottom are telling me is Border Patrol are giving these migrants NTRs once they launch them, that may be a Discover to Report. 

What meaning is they’re asking these migrants to please present as much as an I.C.E. workplace throughout the subsequent 60 days. It’s a request. It isn’t an NTA, which is an order. An NTA stands for a Discover to Seem. That’s a lot stricter telling them an actual time and date of when to indicate up. 

We’ll ship it again to you. 

CARLSON:  Invoice Melugin for us doing the reporting that others aren’t. Thanks. 

It is terrible on each stage, every part about it’s terrible, and you have to ask your self as you watch the historic tragedy that’s Joe Biden’s immigration coverage, what is the level of this? Nothing about it’s an accident, clearly. It is intentional. Joe Biden did it on objective. However why? Why would a President do that to his personal nation? 

No sane first world nation opens its borders to the world, promising the poorest folks on the planet that they’ll have infinite free taxpayer- funded companies in the event that they present up and break your legal guidelines. That is not simply silly, it is suicidal. 

For generations, middle-class People have had entry to one of the best healthcare on the planet, however not anymore. That is over for good. Our system can’t deal with this many destitute newcomers. Interval. 

Think about what hospitals are going to appear like a yr from now. How about faculties? 

What Joe Biden is doing now will change this nation perpetually, so once more, why is he doing it? There’s just one believable reply. You are not allowed to say it out loud. CNN will assault you for those who do. The social media corporations will shut you down. 

The Southern Poverty Regulation Middle will name you harmful. You possibly can lose your checking account. The left will change into fully unhinged and hysterical and that is how it is true. They solely censor the true issues. No one will get in hassle for claiming the Earth is flat. 

So it might be dangerous for us to clarify what’s truly occurring right here, however for as soon as, we do not want to do this. Joe Biden himself has already finished it for us. 

Right here is Biden explaining all the level of mass immigration again in 2015 when he was Vice President. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) 

JOE BIDEN (D), THEN VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES:  An unrelenting stream of immigration, continuous, continuous. People like me who’re Caucasian of European descent for the primary time in 2017 can be in an absolute minority in the US of America, absolute minority. Fewer than 50 p.c of the folks in America from then and on can be white European inventory. 

That is not a foul factor, that is as a supply of our energy. 

(END VIDEO CLIP) 

CARLSON:  An unrelenting stream of immigration, however why? Effectively, Joe Biden simply mentioned it, to alter the racial mixture of the nation. That is the explanation, to cut back the political energy of individuals whose ancestors lived right here and dramatically elevated the proportion of People newly arrived from the third world. 

After which Biden went additional. He mentioned that non-white DNA is the quote, “supply of our energy.” Think about saying that. That is the language of eugenics. It’s horrifying. 

However there is a motive Biden mentioned it. In political phrases, this coverage is named the nice substitute, the substitute of legacy People with extra obedient folks from distant international locations. 

They brag about it on a regular basis, however for those who dare to say it’s occurring, they’ll scream at you with most hysteria. And right here you may have Joe Biden confirming his motive on tape with a smile on his face. 

Nobody who talks like this could ever be the President of the US. The President of the US has an ethical obligation to characterize all People equally, not simply these of a particular colour. 

For 4 years, bear in mind, they informed me that Donald Trump was a racist, however has anybody ever proven that Trump in his whole life mentioned something half as disgusting as what Joe Biden mentioned on that tape? No. Nobody has ever proven that. 

Now you are not supposed to note this, after all, and to maintain you from noticing what Joe Biden is doing and why, they’re as all the time accusing you of their sins. 

Listed here are two sitting Members of Congress telling you that it is racist to implement immigration legislation. Watch. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) 

REP. AYANNA PRESSLEY (D-MA):  Congress should do the work of investigating and guaranteeing accountability of the egregious and white supremacist habits of Border Patrol brokers in Del Rio, Texas. 

REP. MAXINE WATERS (D-CA):  What we witnessed takes us again lots of of years, what we witnessed was worse than what we witnessed in slavery. 

Cowboys with their reins once more whipping black folks, Haitians into the water the place they’re scrambling and falling down when all they’re attempting to do is escape from violence of their nation. 

(END VIDEO CLIP) 

CARLSON:  It is worse than slavery imposing our personal legal guidelines. That was Maxine Waters. Every part she simply mentioned is a lie. The Haitians now in Texas aren’t attempting to flee violence in their very own nation, they have not been in Haiti in years. They’ve been dwelling in South America. Many even had refugee standing in South America, in international locations like Chile and Brazil, however that wasn’t ok. They waited for Joe Biden to change into President and so they got here right here for the free healthcare and housing that Joe Biden promised them. 

So now, they’ve arrived. Why would not they? You’d. Who would not? 

So here is what it appears like tonight in South Texas. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) 

MELUGIN (voice over): A shocking scene extra paying homage to a 3rd world nation than the US. Over 10,000 migrants are crammed beneath the worldwide bridge right here after crossing illegally into the US. Many utilizing sticks, vegetation and no matter they’ll discover to construct shelter as they wait to be processed by Border Patrol. 

From above, a FOX Information drone reveals the scale and scope of the disaster exhibiting a camp that reached a inhabitants of 15,000 at its climax due to this. 

Over the weekend, we gained unique entry to a ship on the Rio Grande and we watched as a continuing stream of lots of of migrants crossed the river from Mexico, coming into the US illegally, lots of at a time gathering on the shoreline earlier than strolling to the bridge. 

(END VIDEO CLIP) 

CARLSON:  That appeared just like the nation you grew up in? No. We do not have to place up with this, we may remedy it in a day. The administration may ship these folks again instantly. Haitians will not be dangerous folks, quite a lot of them are nice folks, however we’ve got no obligation to allow them to into our nation. 

Americans owe no debt to Haiti. Haiti was by no means an American colony, Haiti has been an impartial nation for greater than 200 years since 1804, and for a lot of that point, we’ve got despatched Haiti a complete lot of help. So nonetheless unhappy and dysfunctional Haiti is likely to be, it isn’t our fault. That is for certain. 

And but, Joe Biden is now punishing Border Patrol officers who tried to implement the legislation, who dared to discourage Haitians from coming into this nation illegally with their reins. They weren’t whips, they had been reins. It would not matter to the Biden administration. The officers’ actual crime was attempting to do their job, attempting to cease unlawful migration into this nation. 

They’ve now been suspended, they’ll seemingly be fired. 

Are you able to think about punishing legislation enforcement for imposing the legislation? That is insane. Why do Americans have an obligation to comply with the legislation at this level? That is an sincere query. Individuals are going to begin asking that query. 

The White Home spent most of in the present day calling these officers’ actions horrific. Actually? How had been they horrific? The White Home by no means informed us. 

That is as a result of nobody ever cared about whether or not the whip was actual or not. 

Joe Biden’s Press Secretary is an achieved liar so she understands the precept properly. Right here she is in one of many nice clips of all time claiming that in contrast to you, Haitians don’t want to indicate vaccination playing cards. Watch. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) 

PETER DOOCY, FOX NEWS CHANNEL WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT:  If anyone walks into the nation proper throughout the river, does anyone ask them to see their vaccination card? 

JEN PSAKI, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY:  Effectively, let me clarify to you once more, Peter, how our course of works. As people — as people come throughout the border and they’re each assessed for whether or not they have any signs. 

If they’ve signs, they’re — the intention is for them to be quarantined. That’s our course of. 

They don’t seem to be intending to remain right here for a prolonged time period. 

(END VIDEO CLIP) 

CARLSON:  So Haitians coming into our nation illegally from God is aware of the place will not be required to indicate vaccination playing cards as a result of quote, “They don’t seem to be intending to remain right here for a prolonged time period.” Actually? 

So to illustrate you exit to a restaurant in Midtown Manhattan, do you propose to remain in that restaurant for a prolonged time period? For years? No. You simply need to have dinner. However to be able to get inside, you continue to want to indicate a vaccination card. Why? Oh since you had been born right here. You are not Haitian. So you aren’t getting a move. 

Let’s be sincere. None of those individuals are ever going dwelling. That is simply true. 

In line with the Related Press quote, “Many Haitian migrants camped within the small Texas border city are actually being launched into the US.” 

Haitians, one official informed the Related Press have been freed on a quote, “Very, very giant scale.” Oh, after all. 

In latest days, FOX Information has confirmed that many of those Haitians will not be even being given courtroom dates as Invoice Melugin simply informed us, they’ve been given one thing known as advisory notices requesting that they present up sooner or later sooner or later. Any girl claiming to be pregnant is instantly being waived into the nation, no proof mandatory. Her youngster could be immediately an American citizen. 

So who’re these folks precisely, these new People? Effectively, the administration has no thought. None. They don’t know. They do not care. 

At this time, Jen Psaki once more admitted she isn’t even certain what number of Haitians have been admitted into the U.S. and what number of have been deported. All we all know, there are a number of of Haitians attempting to realize entry to this nation look like violent. This was the scene on the airport in Port-au-Prince simply yesterday. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) 

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice over):  The scene at Port-au-Prince airport in Haiti is risky. Offended Haitians dropped off right here by the Biden administration throw rocks and footwear on the airplane that carried them dwelling. 

Three U.S. I.C.E. officers had been reported injured throughout incidents on the tarmac. 

(END VIDEO CLIP) 

CARLSON:  Throwing rocks at I.C.E. officers. The Biden administration has made it clear it is not going to do something about this, after all. The Governor of Texas is not doing a lot about it both, that might be Greg Abbott, a Republican. 

In a matter of moments, Greg Abbott may deploy the Nationwide Guard, the Texas Nationwide Guard to close off the southern border fully to guard his state and the remainder of the nation. He has refused to do this. As a substitute he has simply deployed simply over 1,000 of the 19,000 troops he controls. Why is that? Why not save the nation you probably have the facility to do this? Why not save your personal state? 

We do not know. Greg Abbott refused to come back on the present and inform us. In a second, we’ll converse to considered one of his major opponents about what ought to be finished to guard all of us. 

However first a reminder that not all People are passive within the face of a disaster like this. A few of them soar on the alternative to assist. 

John Rourke noticed what was occurring on TV and determined he needed to assist, he needed to scrub up the nation he was born in. So he participated in The Nice American Cleanup. He helped manage a trash pickup alongside the border. 

Nobody else was doing it. 

John Rourke joins us now. John, thanks a lot for approaching. I love what you have finished. Inform us what you probably did and why. 

JOHN ROURKE, THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP:  So, thanks for having me on, Tucker. So, I flew a gaggle of — I personal Blue Line Transferring in Jupiter, Florida. It is a shifting firm. Yearly, we do a unique cleanup in a unique metropolis all through the US. 

In 2019, we cleaned up interior metropolis Baltimore after the entire Trump tweeting about it. We had been in a position to decide up 26 tons of rubbish in that metropolis. Two guys overdosed proper in entrance of us quarter-hour into our first day. We Narcan’ed them again to life, so this — Baltimore is loopy, I did not suppose something might be crazier than that after which we went to Del Rio. 

So I flew a gaggle of us on the market, veterans, some lively responsibility guys and we began choosing up trash alongside the Southern border. We went there for 9/11, By no means Neglect. You recognize, so many individuals died on that day and that is what we felt like we may do to respect these folks and we flew on the market and we picked up hundreds of kilos of rubbish alongside the Southern border. 

Our first day, 9/10, we had been actually choosing up rubbish and in quarter-hour, I pulled — with a few of my guys, we pulled three folks out of the river. We went from choosing up trash to pulling folks from the river from Venezuela. 

The subsequent day on 9/11, I used to be beneath that bridge and I see Maxine Waters and Kamala Harris speaking about what they’ve seen. Effectively let me inform you what I noticed, I noticed folks washing infants within the Rio Grande. I noticed infants — breastfeeding infants sleeping in dust, 107 levels exterior, pink ants in every single place, actual coyotes, those which have 4 legs strolling round. It was like “Bare and Afraid” Southern Border Version on the market. 

Individuals are actually pulling down bushes and establishing lean-to’s and teepees and sleeping below these. They arrive and shuttle from mexico as if me otherwise you stroll throughout the road. There’s no one there to cease them. 

We spoke to a ton of them, about 85 p.c of the folks beneath that bridge had been Haitian. Nearly all of them had been coming to South Florida, quite a lot of them are going to Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Seaside, Orlando. 

I requested them about COVID-19. Peter Doocy mentioned is there anyone there checking to see if they’ve their vaccines or if they’ve COVID or something like that? I used to be there, I used to be asking them about whether or not or not they’d been vaccinated, if vaccine was accessible, would they take it, emphatically mentioned no, they’d not take it. Loads of them cited non secular beliefs on the explanation why they would not take it. 

They’re coming right here as a result of the place they’re coming from is so poor and so they need the chance to — they really feel like that is the chance now with the Biden administration to go away the international locations that they have been dwelling in in Central America, locations like Chile and are available right here now and so they informed me to my face the explanation why we’re right here is due to Joe Biden, he’s permitting us to come back right here. He’s a really humble man. He has an enormous coronary heart. He loves the Haitian folks and we love him. 

It was virtually like I used to be on the largest Biden rally I’ve ever been to. 

Everyone that was there talking about Joe Biden. They love him. 

CARLSON:  Sure, properly that is all the level. John Rourke — 

ROURKE:  And Kamala Harris — Kamala Harris speaking in regards to the border — I am sorry — Kamala Harris throwing these Border Patrol brokers below the bus. 

You’ve got to be kidding me, Tucker? 

I imply these individuals are working 16-hour days and so they get that? That is the respect they get from the individual that’s imagined to be main the border. 

It is despicable. 

ROURKE:  And it is to left to you who lives in Jupiter, Florida which is nowhere close to Del Rio, Texas to scrub up the mess that the administration made, the individuals who declare to care in regards to the atmosphere. 

How lengthy earlier than People begin to take border enforcement into their very own arms. God is aware of. John Rourke — 

ROURKE:  Some folks alongside the border are doing that. 

CARLSON:  Sure, properly you may see why. I recognize it. Thanks a lot for becoming a member of us tonight. 

ROURKE:  Thanks, Tucker. 

CARLSON:  Allen West retired from the U.S. Military as a Lieutenant Colonel. 

Now, he’s difficult Greg Abbott within the Republican major for Governor of Texas. He joins us now. Allen West, I recognize you approaching. 

ALLEN WEST (R), CANDIDATE FOR TEXAS GOVERNOR:  Thanks for having me on, Tucker. 

CARLSON:  So we have expressed frustration as a result of that is occurring in a lot of totally different states, however primarily in Texas. Texas has 19,000 members of the Nationwide Guard below the command of the Governor, the Governor has refused to make use of them to seal the border. Inform us what you consider that as somebody who’s working towards him. 

WEST:  Effectively, truly Texas has near 26, 000 members of the Texas Navy Division. We’ve got 1,254 miles of border that we share with a risky unstable nation, and simply on Sunday, I sat down with some retired navy planners and we began just a little mission evaluation and one of many easy issues you are able to do instantly, you may deploy 6,000 to 7,000 in these vital areas. 

I believe one other factor that has to occur is you determine a border management zone in order that you do not have these unlawful immigrants which can be placed on buses and they’re shipped out, ferreted throughout the State of Texas and all throughout the US of America.  

A key factor to that’s that you have to have a look at a few of these 501(c-3) not-for-profit NGO organizations that’s aiding and abetting unlawful immigration and also you revoke their license to have the ability to try this and what they’re doing, working with the Federal authorities right here within the State of Texas. 

However I believe one of the vital necessary issues we’ve got to do beside placing a bodily deterrent of troops on that border and enabling us and our Texas legislation enforcement to have the ability to detain, arrest, and deport folks for the reason that Federal authorities isn’t doing their constitutional responsibility, we have got to declare the cartels as transnational norco-criminal terrorist organizations and due to this fact, right here within the State of Texas, we will go after their assets, we will go after their financing. 

There are banks that I am certain have cartel cash in it. There are folks which can be working for the cartel on this aspect of the border and also you arrest them for aiding and abetting a terrorist group. 

So these are a few of the preliminary issues that I might do. 

CARLSON:  All of them are so wise. My jaw is open. I am questioning why they have not been finished months into this catastrophe? Do you may have any thought? 

WEST:  Effectively, you would need to ask the individual that is at present the Governor that clearly refuses to go in your present, however goes on different reveals the place he feels he has a pleasant listening viewers. 

However the factor is that, we noticed this coming. We’ve got seen the Biden administration institute unconstitutionally by government order an open borders coverage. 

Now, Texas is a sovereign state and as you acknowledged in your opening monologue, who would ever need to be President and never need to defend the sovereignty of the US of America? 

CARLSON:  That is proper. 

WEST:  However who would need to be a Governor and never need to defend the sovereignty of their state which has virtually a 1,300 mile border? We’ve got already had firing incidents, Tucker, out within the El Paso sector the place cartel members are taking pictures throughout the border into the State of Texas concentrating on Border Patrol brokers. 

Final time I checked, that was an act of conflict. As a matter of truth, 30 years in the past, as a younger Military Captain, I used to be deployed to Kuwait to guard their border towards Saddam Hussein, however but right here in the present day, we discover ourselves not defending our personal border. I discover that very hypocritical and ironic. 

CARLSON:  Effectively now you are talking like a Texan, and I believe — let me simply ask you one query — it is a political query, however any Governor notably this Governor on this state who took a stand to guard the opposite 49 states from what’s an invasion , that is actually going to hurt this nation. Anybody who did that might immediately be a number one candidate for President. Folks need that so badly. 

It’s simply — on each stage, on the extent of responsibility, the ethical stage, and on a political stage, it appears insane that he hasn’t finished this. 

WEST:  Sure, you are completely proper, however my concern isn’t a couple of increased workplace. 

CARLSON:  Sure, after all. 

WEST:  My concern is in regards to the security and safety of the residents of Texas and naturally, such as you simply mentioned, the opposite 49 states. These folks — anytime you exit right here in Texas on any of the most important interstates, you are going to see tour buses all around the State of Texas. These tour buses will not be stuffed with vacationers, they’re stuffed with unlawful immigrants. 

Driving down right here, I am in Harlingen which is in Cameron County near the border right here within the Rio Grande Valley, most of the Customs and Border Patrol checkpoints are empty. They’re being deserted. They’re abandoned. Why? 

As a result of these Border Patrol belongings are down there in Del Rio alongside that border and guess what is going on? You’ve got received free rein. 

And so it is not simply that little hall the place that bridge comes throughout in Del Rio, take into consideration the opposite 1,253 miles the place folks have free rein to come back throughout the border into the State of Texas and there aren’t any checkpoints on the market. 

That is why Texas is the primary state in the US of America, possibly quantity two for human intercourse trafficking. Dallas and Houston are the highest two cities in America for intercourse trafficking. What Governor would need to sit round and permit his state to guide the nation in that class? 

CARLSON:  I believe you simply gained quite a lot of help, Colonel Allen West, definitely for me. I recognize it. Thanks. 

WEST:  Thanks, Tucker. 

CARLSON:  So vaccine mandates don’t have anything to do with COVID, they don’t have anything to do even with vaccines. They must do with forcing the inhabitants to bow to the desire of a political get together and within the U.S. 

navy, the impact has been devastating. 

One lively responsibility U.S. Navy Commander has simply issued an pressing warning about what these mandates are doing to Nationwide Safety. That commander joins us straight forward. 

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CARLSON:  The COVID vaccines are free, anybody who desires a COVID vaccine can get a COVID vaccine and the information present us {that a} majority of the nation has. Good for them. 

However there are tens of millions of different People who don’t need to get the COVID vaccine for a bunch of various causes, a lot of that are wholly reputable. Many tens of millions of individuals have recovered from COVID, they’ve antibodies which can be stronger than any of the vaccine provides them, they do not want the vaccine. In any case, it is their name. 

People who find themselves unvaccinated pose no danger in any way to people who find themselves vaccinated. That does not even make sense. It is lunacy. 

So, the Biden administration may simply go away issues as they’re, declare victory and go dwelling, however no, there is no political benefit in that, so the administration is forcing nearly everybody to get it together with lively responsibility members of the navy. 

Navy members who do not get the shot face termination and even courtroom martial, so what impact is that this having on our navy and on our navy readiness? 

An lively responsibility Navy Commander known as J.H. Furman has simply written a memo in regards to the implications of this coverage and posted it on-line. Furman wrote this, quote: “Pressured vaccination of all navy personnel with the current

COVID-19 vaccines could compromise U.S. Nationwide Safety as a result of unknown extent of great vaccine problems.” 

J.H. Furman is a Commander within the U.S. Navy presently and he joins us tonight. 

Commander Furman, thanks a lot for approaching. It goes to that saying it is courageous of you to do that and I am certain you perceive there can be penalties for doing this, so we’re additional grateful that you’re. 

Why did you write this? 

J.H. FURMAN, NAVY COMMANDER:  Effectively, Tucker, I wrote that first paper as a result of I had real considerations in regards to the strategic impacts of the COVID-19 vaccination obligatory coverage. And since writing that, it seems I’ve lots of people that agree with me. You recognize they contacted me in in each manner attainable expressing the identical concern and the identical confusion over the need of this vaccine in what might be probably the most wholesome inhabitants in all the United States. 

It has a hurt charge or a mortality charge of 0.001 p.c evaluate that with the VAERS hurt charge the place COVID vaccination hurt over the past 20 months has taken virtually half of the whole harms totals in within the VAERS database, the 20-year lengthy VAERS database. Mix that with the unknown long-term impacts of the vaccine from this this aborted fetal cell line both derived or manufactured gene remedy vaccine. 

We will not know what the impacts are going to be. The strategic considerations are huge, both via the sailors half of which of all the drive are not looking for the vaccine, that is throughout the reserves and the lively responsibility drive or are you able to think about compelled vaccinating everybody and throwing everybody the identical experimental group and we do not know what the vaccine goes to do ultimately. 

Everyone is vaccine skilled to the identical virus and the impacts are unknown. 

CARLSON:  Do you count on to be relieved for doing this interview? 

FURMAN:  No, completely not. So I took an oath of workplace once I swore in as a Naval officer and that oath is to help and defend the Structure, the legislation of the land. An officer’s oath doesn’t swear allegiance or doesn’t come below the management. You recognize, I don’t swear my alliance to any management, I swear an alliance to align myself with the U.S. Structure and execute these workplace or this workplace commensurate. 

And so all I am doing is asking an open strategic query and actually the voice that I hear screaming at me from all ends of the navy is, why is it mandatory? We do not perceive it. And it is comprehensible that everyone desires to do an excellent job who’s within the navy and whether or not , they’re on one aspect or the opposite of this problem, they’re simply the sufferer of a really giant misperception. 

Our regulatory companies and our U.S. companies have finished no justice to the U.S. navy and the inhabitants as a complete. 

CARLSON:  I agree with that. You’re a very courageous man to say this out loud and we’re grateful. Thanks. Commander J.H. Furman becoming a member of us tonight. 

So the largest state within the nation simply handed legislation that abolishes the suburbs. That is not a small factor. We’ll inform you what it means, subsequent. 

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CARLSON:  Along with all the opposite issues that California has, housing costs there are increased than anyplace within the nation. The median dwelling value within the State of California is now greater than $800,000.00, that is greater than double the nationwide median. Lately, as a result of this actually is an issue, leaders in California handed dozens of payments they declare would repair the issue. 

Governor Jerry Brown, the final man signed 15 housing payments simply in 2017. 

Final Yr, Gavin Newsom signed 18 separate housing payments. Did they work? 

In no way. They didn’t work for the individuals who dwell in California, however they weren’t supposed to work for individuals who need to purchase homes, as a substitute these payments had one objective, destroying suburban houses and changing them with excessive density housing. 

Actual property builders earn more money when single household houses are leveled and changed with residence complexes, clearly, and actual property builders occur to be main donors to the Democratic Social gathering of California, and specifically to Gavin Newsom. 

For instance, the true property developer George Marcus was considered one of Gavin Newsom’s largest donors within the latest recall election. So this week, after surviving the recall tragically, Gavin Newsom rewarded these actual property builders with the largest quote, “housing invoice” ever. 

Newsom simply signed a collection of payments, most notably SB-9 and SB-10 that may abolish the suburbs within the State of California, the state that invented the suburbs. These payments had been endorsed by the California Constructing Business Affiliation, which represents quote, “pursuits of builders and builders of housing and business initiatives.” 

They’re about to be fairly a number of new business initiatives in California’s suburbs. As “The New York Instances” put it quote, “SB-9 basically ends single-family zoning.” Property homeowners now have the state’s approval to transform any single-family dwelling within the State of California right into a four-unit residence complicated. 

How is that this bettering anybody’s life? It will not. It means demolishing houses to place up rental models. On the behest of his donors, Gavin Newsom is popping the State of California right into a slum and it isn’t simply occurring in California. 

Not too long ago, Oregon handed a statewide ban on single household zoning. That is insane. Cities like Minneapolis and Sacramento have begun to permit multi- household dwellings on single-family heaps. Crowding an issue, anybody suppose? 

Solely the federal government of China by the way in which seems to be doing something to rein in actual property builders, quote: “Housing ought to be for dwelling and never for hypothesis,” mentioned the President of China not too long ago. We hate to cite the President of China, however on this case, he’s proper. 

We all know that as a result of one of many largest and most leveraged actual property corporations on the planet, the China-based Evergrande Group is collapsing and china has given no indication they’re excited about bailing out Evergrande. 

In the meantime, on this nation, actual property corporations do not simply get bailouts, they get to put in writing the legal guidelines. They get to wreck your neighborhood, and in lots of elements of America, they can demolish the house subsequent door and switch it into an residence complicated. 

That is nice. 

Effectively, Nicki Minaj grew to become very well-known in our world, anyway, we’re not massive rap aficionados for her political opinions which had been truly fairly insightful, however she’s not the one one. 

We simply spoke to the U.Okay.’s most outspoken rapper about politics in the US and it was an enchanting dialog. We’ll present you a few of it in only a second. 

And you’ll go to tuckercarlson.com proper now and get the brand new e book, reduce out Large Tech. Amazon will get nothing. Be proper again. 

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CARLSON:  Effectively, September is rap star month on this present apparently. Final week, we informed you all about Nicki Minaj. Tonight, an interview with Zuby, who’s a rapper in the UK and a really insightful observer of American politics, by no means afraid to say what he thinks. 

We sat down with him for a brand new episode of “Tucker Carlson At this time.” He informed us what he thinks of the COVID mandates and the state of our ruling class. 

It’s value listening to. This is a part of it. 

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CARLSON:  Whenever you’re in London and also you’re in Nice Britain, does anyone ever say, I can not consider what is going on on. Right here you may have Boris Johnson, , good man, however cannot handle his personal life. We have no children he has. You recognize, he’s type of a catastrophe personally telling us easy methods to handle the intimate particulars of our lives. Like that is unsuitable. 

Does anyone ever say that? 

ZUBY, RAPPER: Hundreds of thousands of individuals do. 

CARLSON:  They do. 

ZUBY:  There are. There’s a resistance. I do not need it to sound like , each British particular person is a sheep who’s simply keen to adjust to no matter daddy authorities says, it is not — it is not like that in any respect. I believe proportionally although, it is totally different. 

One other factor with the united statesA. and once more, quite a lot of People take this without any consideration, an enormous benefit of this nation past its measurement and its geographical scale and its inhabitants is that you’ve got states, proper, you may have 50 totally different choices inside your personal nation the place you do not like the way in which issues are moving into California, you have received 49 different choices. 

You do not like the way in which issues are right here, you may transfer with out leaving your entire nation. Whereas with numerous different international locations, if issues aren’t going properly — that is the type of the place I’ve discovered myself in. 

Like I really like the U.Okay. I am an enormous fan of the U.Okay. It is a fantastic nation in lots of regards, however I used to be simply feeling like, man, there’s — I do not actually like the way in which that is trending. I’ve quite a lot of considerations with this path and this response, and with me it is like properly, there’s nowhere else to go apart from actually leaving the entire nation, which is bittersweet. 

It is an journey, however I do not just like the — I do not like the truth that I felt like my hand was compelled and that issues had been moving into such a path the place I used to be like man, like, I do not — I do not know. You recognize, once more, I speak to individuals who dwell in all the liberty lovers who’re on the market in locations like Australia proper now, it is a dangerous state of affairs. 

I imply, you may’t go away the nation. I imply, that in itself — it’s one factor — 

CARLSON:  You’ll be able to’t go away your nation. It sucks. 

ZUBY:  You’ll be able to’t go away the nation. You’ll be able to’t are available, you may’t go away. 

It is gone again to changing into to being a penal colony, proper? 

CARLSON:  So why is that higher than Cuba? I imply, higher seashores like what

— 

ZUBY:  That is the factor, and it is also been revealed that lots of people do not worth liberty and freedom maybe in the way in which that we thought that they did or folks claimed to. I believe, now you are seeing that

— I’ve all the time had a suspicion that basically folks worth security and safety or a minimum of the phantasm of it greater than they worth freedom and liberty and that is actually confirmed — it’s actually, actually confirmed to be the case. 

I imply every part that is occurring, each authorities overstep, each little bit of authoritarianism or outright tyranny, what is the justification for it? You recognize, for the larger good, on your well being, on your security, that is all the time the justification even when they’re clearly, clearly going manner, manner, manner past that. 

CARLSON:  Nevertheless it’s all from individuals who don’t have any demonstrated document of success within the discipline that they are espousing on. I imply, Joe Biden final week actually received up there and lectured American mother and father on easy methods to increase their children. Joe Biden. 

ZUBY:  Sure. 

CARLSON:  You recognize, no matter his good qualities, has no proper to lecture anybody on easy methods to increase their kids. I imply, are you joking? He ought to be ashamed, but it surely’s true throughout the board. 

ZUBY:  Sure. 

CARLSON:  Perhaps a part of the issue is we’ve got simply inept leaders. 

ZUBY:  Sure, and the factor is it is also straightforward to advocate for issues that do not have an effect on you. 

CARLSON: Proper. 

ZUBY:  This has been one of many largest issues all all through, definitely, I imply it is all the time an issue, however over the previous 18 months particularly. I imply, we have seen this. We have all seen it. The governors and the mayors and Prime Ministers whoever they’re out having their events and going maskless and never socially distancing and doing this and doing — violating all their guidelines occurring international holidays whereas they’re telling their residents to remain at dwelling and to put on a masks and to , do that and try this. 

And that — I imply it is like an animal farm, simply that stage of outright hypocrisy that is simply been rammed in folks’s faces. 

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CARLSON:  Zuby, from the U.Okay. That went on for about an hour. Attention-grabbing. 

You’ll be able to watch on “Tucker Carlson At this time” did by going to foxnation.com. 

Now chances are you’ll bear in mind the proprietor of the Atilis Health club in Philadelphia. He appeared on the present a few occasions — Ian Smith. He’s again to clarify what you are able to do to remain secure from COVID. He truly has a solution that is smart. 

By the way in which, I went on Greg Gutfeld’s present, his new late evening present. It’s on at 11 Japanese tonight. Query was who’s the dumbest CNN anchor? It was a spirited debate with Greg Gutfeld. That is later tonight. 

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CARLSON:  People have change into rather more unhealthy in the course of the COVID lockdowns, not from COVID, however from sitting round on a regular basis and consuming Crawlers, not judging, eaten a number of Crawlers over the previous yr, most of us have. 

General, American adults report gaining a mean of just about 30 kilos within the final yr and a half. On the identical time the federal government shut down gyms and arrested folks for going exterior. Weight problems is likely one of the essential — possibly the primary, together with age — contributor to demise from COVID. So what is that this? 

Ian Smith has thought lots about this. He’s the proprietor of the Atilis Health club simply exterior Philadelphia in New Jersey. He joins us tonight. Ian, thanks a lot for approaching. 

So seeing these numbers, so we have talked lots in regards to the State of New Jersey’s try to shut you down and punish you for talking up about it. 

However the two numbers since we final spoke which have change into crystal clear is that for those who’re obese, you are more likely to get sick from COVID, hospitalized, or die and that individuals are getting a lot heavier. So, it makes what they’re doing to you appear even crazier. 

IAN SMITH, OWNER, ATILIS GYM:  It’s. You recognize, I might like to determine — I might like to know who, in what backroom determined that the way in which ahead for public well being for People was isolation and mass vaccination, as a result of 18 months later, as you mentioned, People will not be any more healthy. And actually, most People are much less wholesome. 

You recognize, we’re seeing it each day within the fitness center, individuals are coming in obese having gained 10, 15, 30 kilos, not from COVID. And the place was the outrage or the place was the path or the cash spent on public well being that needed to incentivize folks to discover ways to deal with themselves, to go exterior, to train, to do all these actually easy, fundamental factor that for those who step away from the insanity, and the media, all is smart to any rational considering particular person and that is train, good food regimen, and loads of daylight and contemporary air. 

CARLSON:  Precisely. You’ve got been saying this for — I do not know after we first spoke, but it surely was in all probability a yr and a half in the past. You’ve got been saying this all the time and so they handled you want a legal. Do you’re feeling vindicated by these numbers? 

SMITH:  You recognize, it is unhappy as a result of what we got down to do was present an answer the place the federal government wasn’t developing with one. You recognize, we have heard nothing however outrage and concern over the COVID deaths. However what in regards to the 300,000 those that die yearly from obesity-related problems? 

The place is the cash spent within the communities? The place are the folks going door to door knocking on folks’s doorways like they’re attempting to get them to pander a COVID shot? 

It is simply lunacy. You recognize, they aren’t getting the outcomes that they need and so they will not abandon the plan. They’re simply doubling down on these efforts which can be proving increasingly each day as we study extra to be futile at this level. 

CARLSON: Precisely. 

SMITH:  Folks don’t need — individuals who took the vaccine are going to take it and people who do not need to take it will not be going to. 

CARLSON:  Precisely. If you happen to handled your children like the federal government treats Americans, your children could be in rehab. That’s completely proper. Ian, thanks a lot. 

SMITH:  It will be abuse. 

CARLSON:  It will be abuse. That is precisely proper. We’re out of time, new interview on foxnation.com. Have a terrific evening. Sean Hannity takes over. 

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